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'The Smoke' Episode 6 SPOILER Discussion Thread


Well, another fabulous episode. Or so I'm guessing. Haven't actually seen it yet since I'm at work and live in the eastern time zone and the show doesn't actually air here.....like that's ever stopped me. ;) But all of you should click on the comment button and share your thoughts in about thirty minutes or so. zegeekgirl is away on business this weekend and see previous comment regarding my delayed viewing, but we'll chime in as soon as we can.

And if any of you want to see another series of The Smoke...wait, what am I saying? You ALL do! And you happen to have a Twitter account, we've helped start a little campaign to let Sky know how much we want the show to stick around. Tweet @TheSmokeOnSky and @Sky1 and use the hashtag #TheSmokeSeries2 :)

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aurora1888 From: aurora1888 Date: March 27th, 2014 11:23 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
This episode felt like being on a total roller coaster.
Jamie totally blew me away, I was convinced he was going to shove Asbo over the bannister and the way he was stomping around the station trying to find him was scary. He's doing such a variety of material in this role and it's so refreshing to see.

Asbo's confession scene was amazing, Taron Egerton was brilliant, poor Asbo and Kev's reaction was just epic, it went from say nothing, to total explosion in a heartbeat. Seriously give these boys a bafta RFN.

His scene with Trish was great and the there's too many parts of me missing already comment guuhh - please just get back together.

Billy the mince is the comedy turn this week and he's fab - along with Little Al's wee boy who is just adorable and as much mischief as his daddy.
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 5th, 2014 06:48 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
He's doing such a variety of material in this role and it's so refreshing to see.

SO. MUCH. I am really enjoying the show as a whole, but the breadth of material that it gives Jamie to work with is a huge reason why I'm loving it so.

His scene with Trish was great and the there's too many parts of me missing already comment guuhh - please just get back together.

That line was pitch-perfect. A+++ delivery, Jamie. And Jodie's face, and the pregnant pause. KISSHERKEVKISSHIMTRISHGODDAMMIT. ;)
From: genesgal Date: March 27th, 2014 11:48 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I feel this ep is the set up to next weeks ep, which I've seen a clip from . It's a bit of a spoiler so I won't mention what happens.

Taron was fantastic.. Absolutely matched Jamie , and it's not often that happens ! He must of been utterly drained . A very intense couple of scenes for someone so young to be that convincing. "I want my mum" sniff.. Poor boy.. All his guilt came crashing out...

More of Rob using his inhaler... That's going to be a problem in either of the last two eps isn't it.
anteros_lmc From: anteros_lmc Date: March 27th, 2014 11:50 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I'm not likely to be able to watch this episode before Saturday, but it's been great to see the endless stream of positive feedback on #TheSmoke tag on twitter. JB & TE seem to have made quite an impression!
anteros_lmc From: anteros_lmc Date: March 30th, 2014 12:57 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Bloody hell. That was quite something. I don't think I breathed at all for the last 30 minutes! What an amazing episode.

The scene with Trish and Dennis was absolutely heartbreaking. I think the thing that really made it for me though was Kev's complete and utter confusion when he learned the truth. He hadn't a clue what to do. I actually thought the psychiatrist worked really well in these scenes, any more would have spoilt the effect.

I particularly loved the pacing this episode, the cuts between the intense emotional scenes and the quieter moments were very well done.

Everyone's already said it, but the acting was superb. Jamie was utterly, believably all over the place and Taron Egarton was superb. I can't even begin to imagine what that must have taken out of them, but I suspect TE"s comment that it was a "complete nightmare" is something of an understatement!
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 5th, 2014 06:58 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
The scene with Trish and Dennis was absolutely heartbreaking. I think the thing that really made it for me though was Kev's complete and utter confusion when he learned the truth. He hadn't a clue what to do. I actually thought the psychiatrist worked really well in these scenes, any more would have spoilt the effect.

I think I'm leaning a little toward asta77's assessment that the psych doesn't quite work, although I totally agree w/ you that limiting her appearance allowed for a more emotional overall scene. Jamie and Taron are both, for different reasons, so palpably confused, scared and heartbroken. That's what I love so much about that scene, and again it's LK giving us something we don't usually get to see which is two male characters who have grown very attached to one another, suddenly devastated in a really unguarded, raw emotional moment. I actually cowered a few times! O_o
anteros_lmc From: anteros_lmc Date: April 5th, 2014 08:13 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I actually cowered a few times!
I watched most of it through my fingers, I had my hands over my eyes for most of that scene!

I wonder if my reaction to the psychiatrist is partially due to the fact that I don't watch much television (unless is has Jamie in it obviously ;) so it's not a trope that I have come across before. I can certainly see how it could become a major distraction if over used, but I thought it worked well here.

And in case you're wondering, I haven't had a chance to watch the next episode yet, and it's driving me mad!!!
asta77 From: asta77 Date: March 30th, 2014 05:29 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
Not everything about the ep worked for me, but, yeah, Jamie and Taron were brilliant. And I'll second the comment that it is so awesome to see Jamie being given such varied material to work with. I'd even argue, from an emotional standpoint, he's given more here than BSG.

As for Taron, his "I want my mom" nearly killed me. I sometimes forget he is just a kid and while he should not easily be forgiven for his actions (or lack of during the fire), when you consider he is just out of his teens (if that), the choices he made make more sense. I'm actually conflicted about jail time for him. A child died. Kev was badly injured and nearly died. But what will prison accomplish at this point other than turning him into his father by the time he gets out?

I know this was not the episode to delve into Mal's continued assholishness, but we're nearing the end of series one and I want some background. I really appreciated Little Al calling him on his behavior and telling him that a sincere apology to ALL of them would help matters. Mal only seems to see things from his POV and how it affects him.

OK, Head!Shrink is not working for me. I guess she's a manifestation of Kev's conscience, that comes out a random stressful moments, but is she needed as a storytelling device? I actually found her a distraction. We can read the conflict on Jamie's face, we didn't need her explaining to Kev why killing Dennis would be a bad idea. Show, do not tell. Hopefully, there is a second series and, hopefully, she is gone.
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 5th, 2014 07:25 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
As for Taron, his "I want my mom" nearly killed me. I sometimes forget he is just a kid and while he should not easily be forgiven for his actions (or lack of during the fire), when you consider he is just out of his teens (if that), the choices he made make more sense.

YES. That tore me up, as well as Jodie's wonderful reaction when Trish's anger subsides and she comes to the exact same realization.

Given that his deadbeat dad has been in jail most of his life and his only other male companion most of the time is a best friend who is a delinquent psychopath, then absolutely, Dennis's gauge for making good choices has been skewed. Clearly, Kelly is a good woman and she has tried to steer him straight against powerful counter-influences; their bond is obviously so strong. But you really see now how that scene in 1x04 when she came to Kev's office to talk to him was important. Dennis needs someone to look up to who is responsible, caring and honorable. And Kev is all of those things, although therein lies the rub... right now, he himself is struggling to be that man as a result of a situation Dennis caused. He needs an influence which can be open-hearted and forgiving, and the question is in that moment, how forgiving can Kev find it in himself to be?

Daaaamn, Lucy Kirkwood, your Moebius strip of an emotional through line is killing me. In the best way. :D

I really appreciated Little Al calling him on his behavior and telling him that a sincere apology to ALL of them would help matters. Mal only seems to see things from his POV and how it affects him.

I'll get into the Mal angle a little bit more when I jump into my Episode 7 comments. ;) But absolutely, that was the BEST development of Little Al's plotline this episode. I appreciated the revelation that though she's the "responsible" one with the white collar job, clearly Tina is also struggling with keeping a full-time job and her mom duties going; it is true to what so many women who are trying to establish a career when they already have a family go through. And I felt like the way that she and Al come to the realization that, OK they have a lot to work on in their own relationship but maybe for the sake of their kid they can be nicer to each other and try harder... that was lovely. So coming from the guy who just had a major life revelation, Mal getting a "stop being a fucking drama queen and sort your life out" knock-back was ace. :D


Edited at 2014-04-05 07:26 pm (UTC)
josieb1 From: josieb1 Date: March 30th, 2014 06:06 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
It was a very powerful episode. Messy but then that's what I've come to expect from The Smoke, I suppose it echoes the mess in Kev's head and sometimes it seems the whole station is a mess as well. I can see how it's all leading up to next weeks drama and Kev's 'enough of me is missing' to Trish nearly broke my heart. Jamie and Taron's performances are stealing the show without a doubt.

Edited at 2014-03-30 06:07 pm (UTC)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 3rd, 2014 04:52 am (UTC) (Link Me)
I have SO MUCH to say about this episode. I was out of town for several days starting Thursday, and have had the week from hell since then so I just got round to seeing episode. No time for proper comment yet but...

OH BOYS. Killing me, Bamber & Egerton. Effing killing me you are. *sniffle*
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 6th, 2014 03:58 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Okay, other things I didn't mention! ;)

Dennis' complete stone face when Mal tells the group he's transferring. And?... XD

The scene with Rosa was just perfect, up in the roof garden in the sunshine when everything associated with the estate has been full of darkness and shadows. "You have to forgive, it sets you free..... and I just, I wanna smack 'em." What a moment of "Aww, so this scene is setting up...oh, WAIT A MINUTE" before what comes later.

One thing that didn't quite ring true to me was how quickly and immediately Kev's rage started to boil when he first confronted Dennis after talking to Rosa; he stormed in there *convinced* he'd been had, that there hadn't been some kind of misunderstanding. Which given where we were with the two of them at the end of the last episode (pretty much bosom comrades)... I suppose because he's already on edge because of the anniversary? Still, I dunno, seemed like maybe Kev would start out a little bit more confused and giving Dennis the benefit of the doubt before he gets hammered with the truth. (Which isn't to say Jamie didn't play that anger terrifically.)

Silly funny thing that struck me when Trish was talking about going out with Grace and her mum for the first time: Unfortunately Kev started to zone out and see Head!Shrink Pauline at the same time and the disorienting ringing drowned out a lot of Jodie's dialogue. But Trish mentioned something in there about the Hammers, which isn't surprising giving the setting. But it DID give me a daft, fangirly thought: If Matt Devlin were actually, literally Ronnie Brooks' son... he'd basically be Kev Allison, wouldn't he? Think about that a minute. See what I mean? ;)

I'm really wondering if with one more episode we'll get any specific confirmation of this, though in the larger picture it doesn't matter. But did anyone else get the impression that Dennis' dad was going on about Spain because he's already violated his parole and he's got to book?

Again, will have more to say about the Billy/Nina subplot when I get to my Ep. 7 comments but I was so happy to see Emily Woof turn up as Nina. She's an actress I've always liked a lot.
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