Character of the Month: Martin Klar - Jamie Bamber News
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zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: October 25th, 2010 05:53 am (UTC) (Link Me)
And zegeekgirl can provide clarification and counterpoints in comments, I am sure. ;)

LOL, well I'll try. ;) It's kind of hard to do proper counterpoints re: the series at large because I don't think "Vows" is at all the best example of the show doing what it did best; it's a very crowded season opener that I think may have suffered in the final draft by trying to accomodate too much. I am waiting to hear what Joss has to say in the commentary on the DVD (and I'm glad this episode merited a commentary at all, not all of them did) - that said, I'm still operating under the assumption that they moved up a lot of the Whiskey storyline, including her whole tango with Topher, because they knew they were about to lose Amy Acker to another show so they wanted to get some of what had been building up w/ her in the first season out of the box and move on rather than save it for a future episode. Therefore, Jamie's plotline may have lost valuable screen time, affecting its impact. Le sigh.

SO TRUE about the Jonas Brothers gag. Although to be honest, I had completely forgotten about it. XD

But white, Echo? Really?

*chortle*

There's more about Martin being thick with some terrorist in the 90s. Which would seem to indicate Martin started arms dealing in his twenties. Industrious!

Bahahaha, another item that I'd forgotten. Seriously, no wonder it took them so long to nail him. He's an old pro at this! (Also, to this point, I wonder if that's a line that they just didn't bother to address/revise after Jamie was cast. If I remember right, the initial casting call had Martin Klar described as a man in his forties.)

But seeing Jamie get to play this type of unrepentant asshole is fascinating and he does a good job of making you hate him.

WORD. It was a bit of a risky call for Joss bringing in someone who is so well known for playing heroic characters for this one-off guest shot who seems very charming but is in fact a nasty man who makes wee bombs that probably kill a lot of innocent babies, and god knows what else. But Jamie plays against type beautifully. And gets to play with some great one-liners. ("Well, if it isn't Paul Ballard. Special agent in charge of BUGGER ALL." Heeee.)
dramaturgca From: dramaturgca Date: October 25th, 2010 06:06 am (UTC) (Link Me)
I'm not sure it's a great example of what the show was trying to do, but I do think it was one of Eliza's best episodes. The difference between "Vows" and the one after it with the breast-feeding is startling.

It could've been a family business you know, the arms dealing. Could've been one of his dad's arms dealer friends in the 90s.

Also, I have to appreciate a director who casts Jamie and gets him naked. I mean, there are so many directors who fail at what would seem like a basic courtesy. ;)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: October 25th, 2010 06:11 am (UTC) (Link Me)
The difference between "Vows" and the one after it with the breast-feeding is startling.

Yeah, that second episode was a hot mess. And it IS one of Eliza's better performances. The point I was trying to make tho was that it's hard for me to advocate for what the show was aiming to accomplish based on this episode. Stuff like "Man On the Street," "Epitaph One" and "Belonging" are soooo much better, even though they contain some pretty nasty subject matter.
dramaturgca From: dramaturgca Date: October 25th, 2010 06:19 am (UTC) (Link Me)
It's true. It played more as an Active of the Week episode, less overarching plot. But still. JAMIE. Ergo, best episode. ;)
asta77 From: asta77 Date: October 25th, 2010 01:48 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I'm still operating under the assumption that they moved up a lot of the Whiskey storyline, including her whole tango with Topher, because they knew they were about to lose Amy Acker to another show so they wanted to get some of what had been building up w/ her in the first season out of the box and move on rather than save it for a future episode. Therefore, Jamie's plotline may have lost valuable screen time, affecting its impact. Le sigh.

Isn't that always the way? ;p And you'll need to let us know what is said about Jamie in the commentary. I may even have to add the disc add to my Netflix queue!

I wonder if that's a line that they just didn't bother to address/revise after Jamie was cast. If I remember right, the initial casting call had Martin Klar described as a man in his forties.

You are correct and the same thought occurred to me. Getting into the gun running business in the 90s makes more sense if the character were about ten years older.

is in fact a nasty man who makes wee bombs that probably kill a lot of innocent babies

Maybe the Cylons rebuilt their empire and used Lee Adama as a model? It's all happened before and will happen again... ;D
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