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"Monday Mornings" Discussion: Chapters 17-24
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zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 16th, 2012 04:54 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
Your cut comment made me laugh, mostly because the very next chapter opens on Ty. I nearly read ahead but I'm trying to keep on the discussion pace. ;)

Well, the last two weeks we've been left wondering when we'd get some gaps filled in on Tina and in this portion of the book it does feel like we got a lot at once, although interestingly, in many ways it only makes her feel like more of a question mark, doesn't it?

Here's the thing - a lot has been made of how SG based these characters in part on actual people that he knows or has worked with. I have no doubt in my mind that there are doctors out there who, like Tina, allow their professional lives to keep them from emotionally connecting with their families, who start illicit relationships to fill the need for some kind of emotional connection, or who even - as seems to be the case here - seek out additional professional commitments (even on a volunteer basis like a free clinic) to serve as an additional distraction/outlet when the frustrations of their primary job start getting them down too. It does make for a pretty fascinating character study of someone who puts themselves in a position where they're spinning so many plates at once and, ultimately, a few of those plates crash and they don't even notice.

It's another case, though, IMO of the type of thing that can make for interesting reading in a novel but present a tricky proposition for a series. I can put up with frustrating characters for longer than I would otherwise if I feel like I know their motivations. At the very least, the show is going to need to provide more for us to go on - the adultery angle only being the tip of the iceberg. You're right, we still don't really know how she feels about Ty from what we have so far, and I would suspect that the convenience aspect might be a factor. Clearly he's HAWT, clearly they get along as friends and respect each other as colleagues... but does she love him? (Does he love her, for that matter? Right now he's obviously less emotionally available because the Quinn situation is eating him up inside, and that's hinted at in the writing.) Or is he ultimately someone she ran to as an escape? Has he been overthrown now as her primary escape by her free clinic work? And there's Mark and her kids, and the fact that she's clearly rankled by Buck Tierney's cardiac wing proposal, and Michelle's still a dangling thread... it's a TON to absorb at once, and again it's mostly written in an anecdotal fashion so it does make her really difficult to sympathize with Tina. Her response to most conflict appears at least at first to be fight, but more often than not it's flight.

(Speaking of Buck Tierney, he's not quite what I expected but he might be an interesting thorn-in-the-side for Bill Irwin to sink his teeth into. ;) Less of a "man, that guy's an asshole" and more of a "why does everyone LOVE that guy?... what an asshole!")

Again, SO much of this stands to be mitigated by how Jen Finnigan plays the character, or in fact how much of this actually ends up being jettisoned or re-written for the show. Who knows what they're going to keep and what they're going to re-work or eliminate completely; we know Mark's in the mix because they cast Eyal Podell, but have we confirmed that they have kids in the pilot? I'm always fond of saying expect the unexpected when it comes to book-to-TV adaptations; my favorite example is still Dexter. Deb Morgan knows her brother is a killer at the end of the first book, but the show just ended its sixth season and she JUST found out. ;) And that's just one major change.

I'm going to have to comment upon myself because I exceeded the character limit... ;)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 16th, 2012 04:54 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
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If the show gets a pickup, I would bet money that the racist scumbag who is not-brain-dead is an episode waiting to happen. It's too good an opportunity for shock and awe! I really liked the premise, as well - has all the great elements, heartbreak, high emotion, tough calls, nasty surprises - though I also had problems with some of the more expository dialogue feeling like it was shoehorned in. (Putting big chunks of exposition into your characters' mouths is my biggest pet peeve, whether on the page OR on the screen. I can be forgiving only if you can make it work tonally; it doesn't really click here.)

The Monique/Sanford scene is priceless, and actually IMO some of SG's best writing so far - that's a scene that could really be played over the top for a cheap laugh (hopefully they won't overdo it if it makes it into the show), but here it's just really funny and rings really true. I do like her character a lot, she comes off as remarkably good-natured despite the mortifiying thing she was just put through, and it's not like she excoriates Sanford for it either. It's more of a "Man oh man, I love you so much, but you're an IDIOT." ;)
asta77 From: asta77 Date: April 17th, 2012 01:15 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Your cut comment made me laugh, mostly because the very next chapter opens on Ty. I nearly read ahead but I'm trying to keep on the discussion pace.

After finishing the assigned reading ;), I had flipped the page to bookmark my place and "Ty" jumped out at me. But, like you, I was good and closed the book. :)

The "anecdotal fashion" in which the book is written, and which we are being (justifiably) critical of, while not a good style for subject matter, would seem to be a decent foundation for a TV series. A full season of stories could easily be pulled from what we are reading and the 42 minutes would provide time to flesh out the cases and the characters. (Though I'm still relying on SG to temper DEK's worse instincts.)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: April 17th, 2012 02:35 am (UTC) (Link Me)
(Though I'm still relying on SG to temper DEK's worse instincts.)

As an executive producer (and one with TWO full time careers elsewhere), though, is SG going to be all that present in the writers room? I think I am sort of relying on what the source material is grounded in (i.e. based on actualfax people) to be the crux of SG's contribution to the "keep DEK from going off the rails" campaign. ;) Then again, maybe DEK will do a good job of reigning in DEK all on his own; I mean, he has done a hospital show before (Chicago Hope) and was rather a good one. Most of his pre-Ally McBeal stuff, come to think of it, I liked better though I never watched any of it religiously. (And I realize I've seen a lot less of L.A. Law than I thought I had, it was just one of those ubiqiutous 80's shows that everyone yakked about constantly when I was young. ;) )

EDIT: You're right, though, about there being potential in the anecdotal nature of the writing for the show to add stronger characterizations and more depth to the storylines.
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