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onlyariana From: onlyariana Date: June 22nd, 2012 10:58 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I've gotta say I really enjoyed this movie. The dads were an adorable odd couple. Both of them so bumbling in their different ways. I LOVED the Mongolian proverbs. My 12 year old has been randomly cracking up the last week or so and it's because he's thinking of "If you tie your lunch to a tiger's tail, don't expect to eat often." I loved how effortlessly Stephen and Gustave connected. I guess the moral is - don't lie to your fiance. And also about how you can't choose your family.

I might have to watch it again. Visual gags and facial expressions are hard to catch when you're reading the subtitles.

I will say that I think the writer had some negative views on male/female relationships. There was Bernard's wife who hid his daughter's letters, Barbara who lied to Gustave about Chloe's paternity, the best friend who wanted a man who was a number one, and Chloe who lied.
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: June 23rd, 2012 03:27 am (UTC) (Link Me)
I will say that I think the writer had some negative views on male/female relationships.

There are two writers. Both male. (One is Martin Valente, the director.) It's possible, and the fact that we're talking so much about how Chloe and Stephen's relationship could have been a) better developed and b) presented in a more romantic way doesn't help their case. Then again, they could just need a lot of practice at writing women. Not all male writers have this problem, lots are terrific at it. But many... aren't. ;)
asta77 From: asta77 Date: June 26th, 2012 11:57 am (UTC) (Link Me)
I found it strange Bernard's wife hid (and kept) the letters. The only thing I could come up with is they didn't have a strong marriage and she feared he'd leave her or try and make the child part of their lives and she did not want that.

I found what Gus's wife did more troubling. Yes, Gus was a lousy husband and often absentee father, but telling your daughter that she has another father out there who was a better man and would have made her life better seems extremely hurtful, damaging, cruel and selfish. I'm rather shocked Olivia wasn't more screwed up.

Edited at 2012-06-26 11:57 am (UTC)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: June 27th, 2012 02:14 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Agree with both. In Bernard's case, I think you've hit the nail on the head; you could even make that kind of behavior more sympathetic if perhaps Bernard explained to someone that his wife knew he wasn't happy in England and he was only there because he loved her. i.e. she didn't do it out of spite, but because she was genuinely afraid of losing him. And he could regret having never really assured her otherwise. Again, this is something that just a teeny bit more dialogue could help with IMMENSELY. (The bits with the translator are funny, but they don't add anything to the story - trim one and give us more character detail instead! Sorted. ;) )

Same goes for Chloe's mother; why can't we have a moment where Chloe doesn't excuse her mother's behavior, but tries to give Gus some context? Context is EVERYTHING.
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