"Perception" 1x02: Discussion Thread - Jamie Bamber News
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"Perception" 1x02: Discussion Thread
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Sooo it's our first discussion thread for Jamie's Perception guest arc. It will be a bit of a wait (about a month, boooo!) until his second ep, so enjoy it and pitch in, folks! (Then again, maybe best that we are pacing it a little; after these eps no new nothing until Monday Mornings hits, hopefully in winter and not next summer. Unless we get a pleasant surprise on the John Doe front...)

Enough prognosticatin', though - come back and discuss episode 1x02,"Faces" after the show tonight! (Will post a screen cap to spruce this post up once we have some...)  Caps now posted! (See above. HELLO NAVY JUMPER, YOU'RE QUITE NICE AREN'T YOU? ;)  More after the cut...


I will be back with thoughts in comments tomorrow - I have LOADS (both pos and neg... the A plot of this one bored me to tears, darn it) - but in the meantime, here are more caps...

Also, I require a GIF of the stammery-twitch-flinch thing Jamie did when Daniel insults Hathaway's book. Because COMEDY. I had to roll that back twice, I laughed so hard. So, someone get on that please? Grazie. ;)  SOMEONE DID. OK, it's in black and white, but I'll take what I can get...


WHAT is your FACE, Bamber?! *dying* ♥

Right, screencaps...

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EDIT (7/18) There is now video up with Eric McCormack discussing Jamie's character and more about the episode...

    

Also, in case anyone is familiar with Eric's character from his Will & Grace days... well this made me laugh, I'll just leave this right here. ;) ...


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Leah1069 From: Leah1069 Date: July 17th, 2012 12:40 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Ahhh, come on! We gotta wait a friggin' month? I hate waiting. I mean I REALLY hate waiting!!!
charlsie_esq From: charlsie_esq Date: July 17th, 2012 04:30 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Jamie was a breath of fresh air in a super-complicated episode. I was so happy to hear his accent!
jsjbg From: jsjbg Date: July 17th, 2012 10:49 am (UTC) (Link Me)
First and foremost YAY for some Jamie screen time. Unfortunately, just not enough Dr. Hathaway.

As for the episode.. a little blah. As soon as we saw the housekeeper I knew it was Olena. The series concept has potential, but it hasn't quite clicked yet for me. I think Eric Mccormack is actually doing a nice job. Rachel Leigh Cook on the other hand..her delivery just seems so bland. Most of her lines just seem delivered with the same emotion, or lack there of. I'm not buying her as the tough, clever FBI agent. Jamie gave us more facial expression and body language in his brief stint than she did the entire episode. Part of it is the writing for her. Her character jumps to conclusions. she arrests the guy in the band because he has a blue camero like the one seen outside the house. She accuses the real Jolene of having an affair with Frank. Really? Everything about the character seems flat.

Hope to eventually see Dr. Hathaway in the classroom. I would sign up for his class.

But..kudos to TNT, my new favorite network, for finding characters with a Dr. in front of their names for Jamie to play.

But please increase your wig budget if you are going to continue having characters wear them. The wigs were pretty awful in this episode.

Edited at 2012-07-17 10:53 am (UTC)
asta77 From: asta77 Date: July 17th, 2012 01:45 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I can buy Rachel as clever, but when she was required to e tough and a bad ass....um, no. It's not just because of her size (I'm petite and I've been known to intimidate people ;), it's just she's lacking something that would make me believe anyone would find her threatening.

The wigs were pretty awful in this episode.

OMG, YES! I kept thinking, even for a guy who was face blind, he'd still be able to spot the bad wigs!
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anamarya From: anamarya Date: July 18th, 2012 11:19 am (UTC) (Link Me)
I'm there with you about basically everything that you said, even if just like Asta I can see Rachel's character as inteligent (clever i think is the word that you used) but tough on the other hand.... nop.

I sort of ended up comparing her with Marsha Thomason's character in White Collar. There is not such a big difference in age between the two (a couple of years in RL and possibly none in the scripts) but I have no problem in seeing Diana as not only tough but bad ass.

Hope to eventually see Dr. Hathaway in the classroom. I would sign up for his class.

Me too.
asta77 From: asta77 Date: July 17th, 2012 01:35 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
There may have been a bit of a squee emanating from me when I heard Dr Hathaway's British accent. Eric had mentioned in an interview Jamie was playing a visiting professor, so I had hoped that meant from across the pond. It's not quite Jamie's natural accent, but a slightly more pronounced and snobby(?) accent. Probably one Jamie felt befitting an over-educated, slightly (at least) full of himself professor and successful author/self help sage to the stars. ;)

Actually, his accent reminded me of someone else's. When he informed Kate it was her last chance to buy him a drink, I went, "Gaius Baltar!" Call me crazy, but didn't he sound (and remind you of) James playing Gaius? Or maybe James was just imprinted on me from seeing him earlier in the evening.

Even though Jamie's time was too brief, I very much appreciated getting to see him play yet another type of character. I wouldn't call Hathaway an asshole, but with his, "Maybe you can buy me a real drink. Seven is good for me", and expecting Kate to take him up on his generous offer, he immediately struck me as egotistical and full of himself. Then again, it's probably born of A LOT of woman taking him up on the offer because he looks like Jamie Bamber. ;)

However, Daniel's "She took that asshole?!" made me LOL. Maybe it's too soon, but I'm not feeling Daniel/Kate AT ALL and it seems the show is telling us that Daniel has an interest in Kate, though she's at least oblivious at the moment.

As for the plot, I was not impressed. I felt the pilot was MUCH stronger in that area. The murder mystery in this episode took too many twists and turns until it became ridiculous. And I knew as soon as e saw the maid she was actually the wife. If I could figure it out so fast how could an FBI agent and supposed genius not?

Also, the hallucinations were far less successful in that they were far more obvious manifestations of his subconscious reasoning.
onlyariana From: onlyariana Date: July 17th, 2012 02:39 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
James was just imprinted on me from seeing him earlier in the evening

You didn't happen to be watching Eureka, did you?

The word that came to my mind for Dr. Hathaway was smarmy. That isn't a bad description for Baltar either.

the maid she was actually the wife

I thought that might be but I actually have mild propopagnosia so I figured I was off, as I often am.
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: July 18th, 2012 04:08 am (UTC) (Link Me)
One more comment I'm going to leave right here that doesn't pertain to any of the threads I've already chucked my thoughts into ;) ....

asta77 and myself noticed quite a bit of evidence that this episode was originally intended to air later in the season, probably closer to Jamie's other two eps, but was moved up for some reason. For one thing, it was apparently not on the screeners that were sent out to critics; if it was not originally the second episode, that would make sense as they probably wouldn't have had time to pre-do the screeners before sending them out, depending on when the decision was made. Also, creator Mike Sussman was tweeting with LeVar Burton, and LeVar's comments seemed to indicate he had no idea he was in last night's episode... maybe because he was expecting it to air later? DON'T KNOW! ;)

Anyway, the point of all this speculation is that I'm trying to figure out what aspect of the episode might have made it seem like they needed to move it up... and I really can't. Any ideas? Anyone?
dramaturgca From: dramaturgca Date: July 18th, 2012 05:52 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Jamie? Maybe because they're going to move up Monday Mornings, so they're going to start introducing their audiences to their new superstar.

New favourite theory.

I don't have a lot of thoughts about the Jamie plot, but the show itself bothers me on a lot of levels. Doubt that I'll be watching anything but the Jamie eps.
Physha1 From: Physha1 Date: July 18th, 2012 02:33 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
Ugh! You can't stream TNT shows unless you have a cable subscription. Hey! If I had cable, I would have watched it LIVE! Hopefully our friend will post Jamie's scenes on Daily Motion soon. From what I've read here, the entire episode doesn't seem too watchable anyway.
asta77 From: asta77 Date: July 18th, 2012 02:47 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I don't think he posts to Daily Motion any longer due to copyright infringement issues (I noticed a Longmire ep was pulled). Jamie's Perception scenes are at his Vimeo account.
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shoelesslucy From: shoelesslucy Date: July 18th, 2012 10:15 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I liked it more than I thought I would. My expectations were pretty low after reading mixed reviews but I found both Eric and Rachael quite likeable. I get what you're all saying about RLC not pulling off the tough attitude but I did kinda find her very engaging. Maybe they should have her be more the clever, instinctive detective than the threatening kind.

Jamie's really working his comedic chops and he's really good at it! (Also love Eric for that tweet, seems like Jamie left quite the impression!
anamarya From: anamarya Date: July 19th, 2012 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
EDIT (7/18) There is now video up with Eric McCormack discussing Jamie's character and more about the episode...


if there is a merciful soul out there can you please write in couple of words what is Eric saying in that video? (it's blocked for some of us)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: July 20th, 2012 05:29 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Basically he notes that Hathaway is the exact opposite of what Daniel represents which is why it galls him that Kate is now dating him, although why it would gall him (whether it's protective teacher/student feelings, or SOMETHING MORE) is something he's deliberately coy about. Which says to me that maybe the show hasn't quite figured that out yet either. Somebody ask Sussman. ;)
Angel47Disney From: Angel47Disney Date: August 20th, 2016 02:58 pm (UTC) (Link Me)

JAMIE BAMBER!

OMG BRITISH ACCENT! CATCHING THAT BASEBALL! HE'S PERFECT! HE'S ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!
He is the reason I'll watch this episode! I love his accent and his smile and his charm. Especially his charm. When I heard his British accent in it, I was like "Okay I'm in love." And then he caught the baseball I was like "Marry me!" LOL XD!
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