'Monday Mornings' Has Been Canceled by TNT.... *sadfaces* - Jamie Bamber News
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'Monday Mornings' Has Been Canceled by TNT.... *sadfaces*

"It's bad news this time, Ty…" :(

So long, Chelsea General… we hardly knew ye. Though I think we all can agree that it's not a complete surprise given all the circumstances, obviously it's still a bummer to report: Today, we received official confirmation that TNT are canceling Monday Mornings after one season. Jennifer Finnigan was the first to break the news on Twitter.

While it feels little like we've been building up to this discussion for a while, there's still plenty to be said on this. (Yours truly is at work so I can't chat about it at the moment myself.) But the comments are now open for reaction and discussion. Have at it, folks…

Oh, Dr. Wilson... *sniffle* (WARNING: GIFspam Incoming!)


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anteros_lmc From: anteros_lmc Date: May 10th, 2013 10:14 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
Well hell, that's a damned shame. I'm inclined to say that TNT only have themselves to blame.

Never mind, he's on the way to the bar and the Scots are waiting ;)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: May 11th, 2013 12:14 am (UTC) (Link Me)
I'm inclined to say that TNT only have themselves to blame.

*sigh* I was critical of a lot of things in the show, and it was never entirely the show I wanted it to be. (Though there were lots of things I did like and felt it improved over the course of the season.) At the same time, I think MM was but one of the victims of an all-around botched winter launch from the network. The two are not mutually exclusive!

For probably obvious reasons, Southland's cancellation today got more press; TV Without Pity tweeted this:

IMO, you could slot "Monday Mornings" in there instead and the sentiment still applies.

Edited at 2013-05-11 12:41 am (UTC)
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: May 11th, 2013 06:20 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Forgot to add earlier...
Never mind, he's on the way to the bar and the Scots are waiting ;)

*chortle* Oh you. Already, eyes on the weekend prize. ;)
jatgdiamondgirl From: jatgdiamondgirl Date: May 10th, 2013 11:09 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
Well...I learned the news from my TV Guide news feed, and I was simply glad to have the inevitable confirmed. I'm disappointed insomuch as MM won't be given opportunity to fulfill its potential, not to mention that Jamie will be absent from American television for at least another year but...relatively speaking, I was far more disappointed when 17th Precinct wasn't picked up by NBC, so I'm not going to throw darts at TNT. This is a business, it happens more often than not, nobody died. Time to move on.

Jamie's a smart guy who's been around the business long enough to read the handwriting on the wall, which is probably one reason he jumped at the chance to do another series in the UK for Kudos. So, I'm going to concentrate on the future, invest in a multi-region DVD player, and wait for The Smoke to be released.

And, now he can do more guest spots on American TV. Nobody asked me, but I'd love to see Jamie on the quirky and smart NBC sitcom Parks and Recreation...or on the AMC American period drama Mad Men...or maybe he'll have time to film that western he's always wanted to do (and that, as a fan of the classic American westerns of the '50s and '60s, I would really love to see).

zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: May 11th, 2013 12:24 am (UTC) (Link Me)
I was far more disappointed when 17th Precinct wasn't picked up by NBC, so I'm not going to throw darts at TNT.

That's okay, some of the rest of us will take your share of the darts off your hands. And hey, I agree with you about 17P because I REALLY enjoyed that pilot! And part of me will always be pissed off about that. But part of me has also totally, as you say, moved on. See my comment above about things that aren't mutually exclusive. ;)

Here's the thing: At the end of the day, it's hard not to feel for the cast and crew. So much work goes into a show on the part of a LOT of people, so in a sense regardless of one's personal feelings about the end result, you want to feel as though the show got its fair chance to find an audience. IMO, there's just too much evidence out there, though, that the network might have made many, many different and better choices that would have given MM (and other shows) a stronger shot at survival. (And let's be honest, garnered better numbers for the shows they *did* renew, too.)

Yes, later this year might turn up opportunities for Jamie to do some more guest work; I'd have my wishlist for that scenario, too. (I always do, although a few of the shows on that list are no longer options. ;) ) He could squeeze a few in before next year's pilot season, sure.

Edited at 2013-05-11 12:37 am (UTC)
asta77 From: asta77 Date: May 12th, 2013 11:38 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I'm seeing more and more actors pull double duty with TV series. Whether it's a British actor working on both sides of the pond or American actors doing a cable and a network show (which generally having different shooting schedules). While it's not always the case, many times it seems like actors hedging their bets, not sure if one of the shows will survive or if their character will be around in the next season. So, yeah, very smart move o Jamie's part to take on The Smoke, especially since the role was just offered to him without weeks of auditioning.

I have no doubt we will be seeing Jamie in guest starring roles next season. Parks and Rec is a great suggestion! And Community could use a new professor and they seem to like hiring Brits for those roles. :) And Ron Moore has TWO shows in pre-production that will need to hire actors eventually. ;)
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asta77 From: asta77 Date: May 12th, 2013 11:41 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
It was definitely finding it's footing as the season progressed and I really wonder what might have been with a second season. It's possible the show never would have been a huge hit (medical based shows haven't been doing well, in general, recently), but had TNT properly marketed and advertised it, it at least would have had a chance to show what it could do.
bethpowell63 From: bethpowell63 Date: May 11th, 2013 01:50 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I love Jamie, but he was hardly ever on. Of all of the episodes they aired he was really only the main focus in 3 of them. I want to see him in a show like Grey's Anatomy where he is in every scene in every episode.
jatgdiamondgirl From: jatgdiamondgirl Date: May 11th, 2013 08:57 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
Even McDreamy himself, Patrick Dempsey, isn't in every scene of every episode of GA, which is very much an ensemble show.

Television shows rarely revolve around one lead actor anymore--I can't think of a single American series, off the top of my head, that focuses on one character to the exclusion of all others...and, judging by his professional history, I wonder if Jamie would even be interested in doing a TV series in which his character is the one and only focus. I can see that possibility in theater or a full-length feature film, but not in television.
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onlyariana From: onlyariana Date: May 13th, 2013 06:11 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I really think there was supposed to be more of Ty and they cut it out somewhere along the line (whether cut it from the script before it was filmed or cut the scenes I'm not sure). I think they had romance story lines for him and then they decided not to do the "who is sleeping with whom" and cut that all out but were left with not a whole lot for Dr. Wilson to do. I know before the series started airing Tara Summers said in an interview that she was dating one of the doctors and we never saw that on screen so *something* got cut. And if a bunch of early Tina/Ty scenes were cut it'd help make sense of that often nonsensical relationship.
onlyariana From: onlyariana Date: May 13th, 2013 07:17 pm (UTC) (Link Me)
I'm sad not to have the potential of this show around anymore. I'm sad not to have JB regularly on my TV. I'm sad that a project that people enjoyed working on isn't going to be around anymore. But I'm not totally sad this wasn't renewed. It had a lot of problems and worst of all I think those in control didn't see the problems as problems so I wasn't terribly hopeful that there would be any attempt to become better.

There were certainly some great moments and even a few episodes that I really enjoyed. I don't mean to be negative it's just that there was a small part of me that was somewhat relieved not to go through disappointment and difficulty with the show for another season. HH's characterization in the MM meetings was unpleasant to watch. There was a yucky thread of misogyny in a lot of the show. JB was criminally under-used. There were really odd and frustrating camera choices. It tended to shoot too hard for the drama and because of that fell short. There were amazing actors on this show. I don't think I could possibly have any complaint about the main actors. They were all practically flawless - but the show itself often got in their way.
zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: May 14th, 2013 02:53 am (UTC) (Link Me)
Definitely appreciate you pointing out that you don't wish to be negative, but IMO you're only being honest. It's one thing to bitch and moan and say "this is bullshit!" or complain that the show isn't something radically different than what it is. (MM wasn't what I hoped it would be on a structural level, but I also tried to understand the intent behind its tone and such.) You're attempting to give it the benefit of the doubt and merely explaining why it didn't always work for you; I try to do the same. I always try to be as kind about it as possible, but I can't just blindly pledge fealty without any objectivity. :)

In retrospect, my lingering sadness about the show is this, and forgive me for prefacing it with a very TV-nerdy analogy: There's an episode of I Love Lucy called "Lucy's Schedule," in which, because she's perpetually late for everything, Ricky decides to put Lucy on a schedule to "fix" things. He's also trying to impress his boss who is coming over for dinner; meanwhile, Lucy and Ethel and the boss's wife scheme to throw the schedule off to demonstrate what a load of bullcrap the whole thing is. So during dinner, they bring each course and then take it away within seconds because there's only so much time for soup, honey.. have to stick to the schedule. Oh, the steak's frozen? Sorry, there was no time in the schedule for defrosting. I'm really stretching on this analogy, I know ;) - but the point I'm making is that because MM tried to get SO much done in each episode rather than narrowing the focus and delving deeper into each storyline, I felt like that while watching it an awful lot. Hang on... bring the soup back, I barely got to taste it! So many interesting moral dilemmas were introduced that ultimately, most of the time I felt could have been examined with more complexity, and as we've discussed a lot the resonance for the characters' personal storylines could have felt so much stronger... there simply was *never* enough time. :(
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zegeekgirl From: zegeekgirl Date: July 10th, 2014 03:22 am (UTC) (Link Me)

Re: real pity

Hey there - yeah, there's really no chance Monday Mornings would be revived; it's been over a year and all the actors have moved on to other projects. (Jennifer Finnigan is starring on another show on FX, for example.) As we discussed in the thread, there are a lot of reasons why we suspect it struggled. Many of us had our own criticisms of the show, but overhwhelmingly we all agreed that TNT didn't exactly do the best job of selling the show for what it was; reaching an audience on social media and *aggressively* getting the word out in advance of its debut; and building on the audience they had so that it had a fighting chance.

Jamie will turn up somewhere else soon I'm sure, but in the meantime do seek out The Smoke if you want more to watch! And welcome to the comm, nice to see new faces always ;)
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